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@ 2007-03-08 05:57 pm UTC
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[livejournal.com profile] liviapenn has made some awesome SGA Dinosaur Comics. No dialogue has been changed from the originals, it's just Rodney, John, and Teyla pasted in, and it's freaky how well it works. Be sure to click the link at top for some earlier comics she did, too. T-Rex and Utahraptor (Rodney and John, and can I say how much I love that she found a picture of Rodney where he's got his hands up and looks like a T-Rex?) have a homosexual affair (that T-Rex can't remember, but I remember that comic!).

Also in awesome news, I slept from 8am to 4pm today, yay.

Also, also, this post further discusses the "slash gaze" from that one post on [livejournal.com profile] metafandom last week or whenever, and analyses scenes from fics where guys are looking or being looked at.

And while I can't even really express my confusion over the whole of the original post, this is one part where I can. The original post talks about how this is the specific "slash aesthetic", but how can this be possible? The very fact that there are two men involved means there will be men doing the looking and men being looked at. This applies for gay porn, lit, even real life. How can it be something specifically slashy/the defining characteristic of slash?

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[identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com
2007-03-10 05:19 pm UTC (link)
If people were deducing that a woman had written based solely on its slashiness, that'd be different....

That's exactly what she was doing. I was just short-handing. But, for example, she had said that Brokeback Mountain, the story, was slashy because a woman wrote it, but the film wasn't slashy because Ang Lee is a man, and she went on and on about how slashiness was some inherently female thing. But this all depended on her being able to see the author's name and know that they were male or female.

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[identity profile] alixtii.livejournal.com
2007-03-10 06:51 pm UTC (link)
*nods* I think I remember that discussion.

But that's still not circular, since she knew Annie Proux (sp?) was female, and Ang Lee was male. Having an unsupported premise (that slashiness is dependent on having a female writer) isn't the same as circularity, since her conclusion and the premise were different:

1. Ang Lee the male author of BM.
2. Males can't create slash.
3. BM isn't slash.

As opposed to say, if she were using the fact that that BM isn't slash as evidence that males can't create slash, which in turn proves that BM isn't slash....

Anyway, the entire discussion is so insanely academic as to be silly, if not that I fully expect you to find some circularity in my response when I post it, which would then allow me to use my defense...

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